[BLU/Officers] Online meetings
David Kramer
david at thekramers.net
Wed Mar 25 18:04:31 EDT 2020
Turns out I'm meeting Steve Ronan to give him a computer tonight so I'm
not available at 7. I'm interested in trying it another time if
possible, and hearing how this test went.
On 3/25/20 9:38 AM, David Kramer wrote:
>
> I'll be available
>
> On 3/24/20 5:27 PM, John Abreau wrote:
>> Let's do the jitsi test tomorrow evening. Who's available to participate?
>>
>> Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 7:00 pm.
>>
>> You can join the meeting directly at the url: https://meet.jit.si/blu.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:52 PM John Abreau <abreauj at gmail.com
>> <mailto:abreauj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I've added Federico to the conversation.
>>
>> I did some further testing, and found that desktop sharing and
>> windows sharing seem to work well on both hangouts-meet meet and
>> jitsi.
>>
>> I looked into recording the meetings, and I found that jitsi does
>> it out of the box for free, whereas hangouts only provides it for
>> Enterprise accounts, which I assume would be prohibitively
>> expensive for us. Jitsi records the meetings to dropbox, and when
>> I downloaded and played my test recording afterwards, the video
>> and audio quality were excellent.
>>
>> I performed both tests from within google chrome, so both are
>> platform-agnostic. Members won't have to install a dedicated
>> client to attend. Unless they attend by a handheld device, of
>> course, but I saw that jitsi has both iOS and Android client
>> apps, and I assume hangout-meet does as well. I tested the jitsi
>> android app, before I tried it in the browser, and it worked well.
>>
>> If we find that all else is equal, I'm leaning toward jitsi at
>> this point, but I'd still like to run some tests with other
>> participants using both platforms, initially with just a few of
>> us and later with a larger number of participants.
>>
>> Setting up our own jitsi server is an option I'd like to
>> investigate later, but for now we can stick with the existing
>> free server. The roll-your-own server is only actively supported
>> on Ubuntu, and apparently installing it on CentOS is a major
>> hassle, so if we decide to set up our own, I'll want to build the
>> new server with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS instead of CentOS 8, and 20.04
>> won't be released until next month.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:20 PM John Abreau <abreauj at gmail.com
>> <mailto:abreauj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I also have a server at home that's meant for our site. I had
>> held off on building it until CentOS 8 was released, then
>> forgot to get back to it, but I'll add that to my todo list
>> and start working on it this week.
>>
>> I installed jitsi earlier today, just after replying to Bill.
>> It looks okay in the browser and on my android phone, as far
>> as I can tell without other participants, although in firefox
>> it complained about the browser and recommended google chrome
>> instead. The jitsi client application appears to be a
>> text-based chat client; I've been unable to find any video
>> capabilities in it.
>>
>> I lust connected to Hangout Meet with google chrome using my
>> gapps login. Again, like jitsi, I need some other
>> participants in order to try it out properly.
>>
>> The video meeting I have open now is at the following link:
>>
>> https://meet.google.com/oda-sngs-krp
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:01 PM Jerry Feldman
>> <gaf.linux at gmail.com <mailto:gaf.linux at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree that G-Hangout-Meet and Jtsi are worth a look. We
>> have 2 issues:
>> 1. April 15th. We just have to coordinate with Federico.
>> 2. Officers. (a more standard collaboration platform,
>> like G-Hangout-Meet
>> 3. I have a server sitting at home that I will bring to
>> the BLU hosting center at some time.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:50 PM Bill Ricker
>> <bill.n1vux at gmail.com <mailto:bill.n1vux at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:24 PM John Abreau
>> <abreauj at gmail.com <mailto:abreauj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> If Zoom is unacceptable, then I imagine skype,
>> hangouts, and the other options mentioned
>> previously will likely also have issues. It
>> sounds like you think it would be bad to even
>> test Zoom.
>>
>>
>> While Skype and Hangout-Meet are owned by MS and
>> Alpha/GOOG, respectively somewhat and highly suspect
>> on privacy grounds, i am not _aware_ of any
>> _specific_ privacy issues with them.
>> (I haven't noticed targeted ads as a result of
>> keywords in Hangout... yet ... as i do with G-mail,
>> G-chat and FB DM and post/reply.
>> Creepy but better than all the ED cures they used to
>> offer when my only known demographic was Male.
>> OTOH you'd think they'd know i eventually bought a
>> mattress after comparison shopping so maybe i don't
>> need another immediately and they can back off that
>> keyword?)
>>
>> I looked through those links, and a couple of
>> them recommend Jitsi as an alternative.
>> Apparently we could run our own blu.org
>> <http://blu.org> jitsi server on our hardware.
>>
>>
>> That would seem to be the most FLOSS-dogfood option
>> based on the current buzz.
>> I can't personally recommend as I haven't tried Jitsi.
>> Offhand IDK running our own might be required - is
>> there a free server and is it over-subscribed in this
>> crisis?
>>
>> Shall we test jjitsi instead, or do you have some
>> other platform in mind that we should try? I'd
>> really like to try out something suitable this
>> week for holding an officers meeting with at
>> least 3 participants.
>>
>>
>> I'm comfortable with G-Hangout-*Meet* and that is
>> compatible with our existing YouTub archive, bonus.
>> Jitsi probably worth a look.
>>
>> // Bill
>>
>>
>>
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