[BLU/Officers] Online meetings

Wed Mar 25 13:05:13 EDT 2020

I'm available also

BTW I don't think we should use our system as a server as we could exceed
our bandwidth. Not sure what our limit is, but we were charged extra either
last year or the year before. I think I used Bug funds to pay for it. If we
can avoid using our server, let's do that.

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, 9:39 AM David Kramer <david at thekramers.net> wrote:

> I'll be available
> On 3/24/20 5:27 PM, John Abreau wrote:
>
> Let's do the jitsi test tomorrow evening. Who's available to participate?
>
> Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 7:00 pm.
>
> You can join the meeting directly at the url: https://meet.jit.si/blu.org
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:52 PM John Abreau <abreauj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've added Federico to the conversation.
>>
>> I did some further testing, and found that desktop sharing and windows
>> sharing seem to work well on both hangouts-meet meet and jitsi.
>>
>> I looked into recording the meetings, and I found that jitsi does it out
>> of the box for free, whereas hangouts only provides it for Enterprise
>> accounts, which I assume would be prohibitively expensive for us. Jitsi
>> records the meetings to dropbox, and when I downloaded and played my test
>> recording afterwards, the video and audio quality were excellent.
>>
>> I performed both tests from within google chrome, so both are
>> platform-agnostic. Members won't have to install a dedicated client to
>> attend. Unless they attend by a handheld device, of course, but I saw that
>> jitsi has both iOS and Android client apps, and I assume hangout-meet does
>> as well. I tested the jitsi android app, before I tried it in the browser,
>> and it worked well.
>>
>> If we find that all else is equal, I'm leaning toward jitsi at this
>> point, but I'd still like to run some tests with other participants using
>> both platforms, initially with just a few of us and later with a larger
>> number of participants.
>>
>> Setting up our own jitsi server is an option I'd like to investigate
>> later, but for now we can stick with the existing free server. The
>> roll-your-own server is only actively supported on Ubuntu, and apparently
>> installing it on CentOS is a major hassle, so if we decide to set up our
>> own, I'll want to build the new server with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS instead of
>> CentOS 8, and 20.04 won't be released until next month.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:20 PM John Abreau <abreauj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I also have a server at home that's meant for our site. I had held off
>>> on building it until CentOS 8 was released, then forgot to get back to it,
>>> but I'll add that to my todo list and start working on it this week.
>>>
>>> I installed jitsi earlier today, just after replying to Bill. It looks
>>> okay in the browser and on my android phone, as far as I can tell without
>>> other participants, although in firefox it complained about the browser and
>>> recommended google chrome instead. The jitsi client application appears to
>>> be a text-based chat client; I've been unable to find any video
>>> capabilities in it.
>>>
>>> I lust connected to Hangout Meet with google chrome using my gapps
>>> login. Again, like jitsi, I need some other participants in order to try it
>>> out properly.
>>>
>>> The video meeting I have open now is at the following link:
>>>
>>> https://meet.google.com/oda-sngs-krp
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:01 PM Jerry Feldman <gaf.linux at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree that G-Hangout-Meet and Jtsi are worth a look. We have 2 issues:
>>>> 1. April 15th. We just have to coordinate with Federico.
>>>> 2. Officers. (a more standard collaboration platform, like
>>>> G-Hangout-Meet
>>>> 3. I have a server sitting at home that I will bring to the BLU hosting
>>>> center at some time.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:50 PM Bill Ricker <bill.n1vux at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:24 PM John Abreau <abreauj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If Zoom is unacceptable, then I imagine skype, hangouts, and the
>>>>>> other options mentioned previously will likely also have issues. It sounds
>>>>>> like you think it would be bad to even test Zoom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While Skype and Hangout-Meet are owned by MS and Alpha/GOOG,
>>>>> respectively somewhat and highly suspect on privacy grounds, i am not
>>>>> *aware* of any *specific* privacy issues with them.
>>>>> (I haven't noticed targeted ads as a result of keywords in Hangout...
>>>>> yet ... as i do with G-mail, G-chat and FB DM and post/reply.
>>>>> Creepy but better than all the ED cures they used to offer when my
>>>>> only known demographic was Male.
>>>>> OTOH you'd think they'd know i eventually bought a mattress after
>>>>> comparison shopping so maybe i don't need another immediately and they can
>>>>> back off that keyword?)
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked through those links, and a couple of them recommend Jitsi as
>>>>>> an alternative. Apparently we could run our own blu.org jitsi server
>>>>>> on our hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That would seem to be the most FLOSS-dogfood option based on the
>>>>> current buzz.
>>>>> I can't personally recommend as I haven't tried Jitsi.
>>>>> Offhand IDK running our own might be required - is there a free server
>>>>> and is it over-subscribed in this crisis?
>>>>>
>>>>> Shall we test jjitsi instead, or do you have some other platform in
>>>>>> mind that we should try? I'd really like to try out something suitable this
>>>>>> week for holding an officers meeting with at least 3 participants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm comfortable with G-Hangout-*Meet* and that is compatible with our
>>>>> existing YouTub archive, bonus.
>>>>> Jitsi probably worth a look.
>>>>>
>>>>> // Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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