[BLU/Officers] Online meetings
David Kramer
david at thekramers.net
Wed Mar 25 09:38:31 EDT 2020
I'll be available
On 3/24/20 5:27 PM, John Abreau wrote:
> Let's do the jitsi test tomorrow evening. Who's available to participate?
>
> Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 7:00 pm.
>
> You can join the meeting directly at the url: https://meet.jit.si/blu.org
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 4:52 PM John Abreau <abreauj at gmail.com
> <mailto:abreauj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I've added Federico to the conversation.
>
> I did some further testing, and found that desktop sharing and
> windows sharing seem to work well on both hangouts-meet meet and
> jitsi.
>
> I looked into recording the meetings, and I found that jitsi does
> it out of the box for free, whereas hangouts only provides it for
> Enterprise accounts, which I assume would be prohibitively
> expensive for us. Jitsi records the meetings to dropbox, and when
> I downloaded and played my test recording afterwards, the video
> and audio quality were excellent.
>
> I performed both tests from within google chrome, so both are
> platform-agnostic. Members won't have to install a dedicated
> client to attend. Unless they attend by a handheld device, of
> course, but I saw that jitsi has both iOS and Android client apps,
> and I assume hangout-meet does as well. I tested the jitsi android
> app, before I tried it in the browser, and it worked well.
>
> If we find that all else is equal, I'm leaning toward jitsi at
> this point, but I'd still like to run some tests with other
> participants using both platforms, initially with just a few of us
> and later with a larger number of participants.
>
> Setting up our own jitsi server is an option I'd like to
> investigate later, but for now we can stick with the existing free
> server. The roll-your-own server is only actively supported on
> Ubuntu, and apparently installing it on CentOS is a major hassle,
> so if we decide to set up our own, I'll want to build the new
> server with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS instead of CentOS 8, and 20.04 won't
> be released until next month.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:20 PM John Abreau <abreauj at gmail.com
> <mailto:abreauj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I also have a server at home that's meant for our site. I had
> held off on building it until CentOS 8 was released, then
> forgot to get back to it, but I'll add that to my todo list
> and start working on it this week.
>
> I installed jitsi earlier today, just after replying to Bill.
> It looks okay in the browser and on my android phone, as far
> as I can tell without other participants, although in firefox
> it complained about the browser and recommended google chrome
> instead. The jitsi client application appears to be a
> text-based chat client; I've been unable to find any video
> capabilities in it.
>
> I lust connected to Hangout Meet with google chrome using my
> gapps login. Again, like jitsi, I need some other participants
> in order to try it out properly.
>
> The video meeting I have open now is at the following link:
>
> https://meet.google.com/oda-sngs-krp
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:01 PM Jerry Feldman
> <gaf.linux at gmail.com <mailto:gaf.linux at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I agree that G-Hangout-Meet and Jtsi are worth a look. We
> have 2 issues:
> 1. April 15th. We just have to coordinate with Federico.
> 2. Officers. (a more standard collaboration platform, like
> G-Hangout-Meet
> 3. I have a server sitting at home that I will bring to
> the BLU hosting center at some time.
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:50 PM Bill Ricker
> <bill.n1vux at gmail.com <mailto:bill.n1vux at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:24 PM John Abreau
> <abreauj at gmail.com <mailto:abreauj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> If Zoom is unacceptable, then I imagine skype,
> hangouts, and the other options mentioned
> previously will likely also have issues. It sounds
> like you think it would be bad to even test Zoom.
>
>
> While Skype and Hangout-Meet are owned by MS and
> Alpha/GOOG, respectively somewhat and highly suspect
> on privacy grounds, i am not _aware_ of any _specific_
> privacy issues with them.
> (I haven't noticed targeted ads as a result of
> keywords in Hangout... yet ... as i do with G-mail,
> G-chat and FB DM and post/reply.
> Creepy but better than all the ED cures they used to
> offer when my only known demographic was Male.
> OTOH you'd think they'd know i eventually bought a
> mattress after comparison shopping so maybe i don't
> need another immediately and they can back off that
> keyword?)
>
> I looked through those links, and a couple of them
> recommend Jitsi as an alternative. Apparently we
> could run our own blu.org <http://blu.org> jitsi
> server on our hardware.
>
>
> That would seem to be the most FLOSS-dogfood option
> based on the current buzz.
> I can't personally recommend as I haven't tried Jitsi.
> Offhand IDK running our own might be required - is
> there a free server and is it over-subscribed in this
> crisis?
>
> Shall we test jjitsi instead, or do you have some
> other platform in mind that we should try? I'd
> really like to try out something suitable this
> week for holding an officers meeting with at least
> 3 participants.
>
>
> I'm comfortable with G-Hangout-*Meet* and that is
> compatible with our existing YouTub archive, bonus.
> Jitsi probably worth a look.
>
> // Bill
>
>
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