<div dir="ltr">I have several Android phones I use as IP cameras, there's an app for that. (Several, actually.)<div><br></div><div>The trouble is, the phones occasionally hang or the app stops responding. Then you have to go manually reset them - you can't even just pull power, unless you removed the batteries.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:07 PM, David Kramer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@thekramers.net" target="_blank">david@thekramers.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="">On 04/14/2014 07:02 PM, Tom Metro wrote:<br>
> I receive ads from <a href="http://123securityproducts.com" target="_blank">123securityproducts.com</a>. They seem to be typical of<br>
> sites selling security cameras, although I only rarely look at the other<br>
> sites, as I haven't been actively shopping for equipment in this space<br>
> for a few years.<br>
><br>
> The vast majority of the products they advertise are still analog<br>
> cameras, usually sold in multi-camera bundles, with a central DVR<br>
> (running some buggy Linux firmware, often with no source code provided).<br>
><br>
> The ad I received today was one of the rare few promoting an actual IP<br>
> camera. It has better resolution than you typically see. Instead of<br>
> merely VGA or QVGA, its a 2.43 MP sensor, with a fixed lens. (A 2000 x<br>
> 1241 pixel sensor, outputting 1920 x 1080 using H.264 at 30 FPS.) It<br>
> also supports Power-over-Ethernet, which is good, but they want over<br>
> $300 for this:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.123securityproducts.com/knc-hdi47b37.html" target="_blank">https://www.123securityproducts.com/knc-hdi47b37.html</a><br>
><br>
> I get that pro-grade hardware carries a premium, but the capabilities of<br>
> this camera are likely blown away by a sub-$50 Android smartphone, which<br>
> likely comes with a 3 MP camera, plus has WiFi and GSM radios.<br>
<br>
</div>Not so minor nit: Show me a sub $50 Android smartphone. And by that I<br>
mean you buy the phone for sub-$50 and that's that. No contract or<br>
commitments.<br>
Or are you talking used? Even there I think $50 might be a stretch.<br>
Maybe a tablet from China. That would still have wifi.<br>
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> It seems easy to imagine how one could take a low-end smartphone SoC,<br>
> combined with a high volume 5 MP camera module made for phones, and add<br>
> a wired Ethernet port with PoE and some IR LEDS for night illumination,<br>
> with production costs under $100, and a retail price of around $100.<br>
> Replace Android with a very minimalist Linux or other open source RTOS<br>
> optimized for reliability, and you'd have a great camera platform.<br>
<br>
</div>I don't know why you would go through all that work. Couldn't you write<br>
an Android app that sent the camera to a stream over wifi without<br>
hacking anything?<br>
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