On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 06:55:59AM -0800, Jim Gasek wrote: > Related to the two big trends?: > - upstart (changing of the start/stop paradigm) > - NetworkManager (phasing out of traditional networking). > > I dislike both trends. This rings of "change is bad..." -- a mantra espoused by an engineer I onced worked with. Change can indeed be bad, but only when it is pointless or produces negative results. In both cases, these changes effect a change for the better. The Network Manager change allows network configuration to be a lot more flexible; granted that's most useful on a laptop, but there are lots of laptops. As others have pointed out, it in no way prevents a static IP configuration. The move away from the traditional init allows for booting the system to be faster and more flexible. I'd agree with anyone who said that Unix/Linux got a lot of stuff right / does a lot of things better than other OSes do... but that doesn't mean there is no room for improvement. =8^) -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience.