On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 04:24:39PM -0400, Richard Pieri wrote: > On Aug 4, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Derek Martin wrote: > > > > FWIW, I also tend to disbelive Richard's suggestion that The Club > > actually makes your care more likely to be stolen... I can't find any > > Just to be clear, that is not what I wrote. This is what I wrote: > "Here's something to ponder: if you put a Club on your wheel then > your car is *more* likely to be stolen by a professional car thief > than if you did not." Your artical notwithstanding, I think the most that you can say is that based on some anecdotal evidence, the club will make it more likely that *certain* professional car theives are more likely to steal it, if it happens to be around while they're trying. That does not necessarily translate into "if you put a Club on your wheel then your car is *more* likely to be stolen by a professional car thief than if you did not." I'm guessing that many more cars are stolen by pros than by joyriders, and that leads me back to my actuary argument... > A Club will deter joyriders from taking your car, much as a U-lock > will deter joyriders from swiping your bicycle. The pro, on the > other hand, won't blink twice at either. He'll pull out a hacksaw > or bottle jack and take your ride before you know it. This I agree with. The point being that if the pro picks your car, he's probably going to steal it regardless of what you did to try to stop him. If he's determined, he can always just tow it. -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail due to spam prevention. Sorry for the inconvenience.