jack coats writes: > Just because it sounds like the thing I might do, did you > do an 'apt-get update' first? I am guessing you did, just > curious. thanks for thinking well of me, but no, i hadn't. having run ubuntu for about a year and a half, i never ran apt-get update from the command line, nor did i know one needed to, though i have breezed through the man pages numerous times, and should have seen it. does the little sustem update gui on the task bar accomplish that, because in fact i hadn't got even that far on this installation, and perhaps had on numeroous previous ones that never had the problem. at any rate, after doing the update as you recommended, the problem has vanished. thank you. dan j. daniel moylan 84 harvard ave brookline, ma 02446-6202 617-232-2360 (tel) 810-454-1823 (fax) jdm-LPA1KyJyIuz1P9xLtpHBDw@public.gmane.org www.moylan.us [death to html bloat!]