though i'm not aware of any system changes i might have made, fetchmail, which fetched yesterday, does not do so today. i see the following: 4 messages for jdm+moylan.us at moylan.us (16100 octets). fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection refused. fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from jdm+moylan.us-LPA1KyJyIuz1P9xLtpHBDw@public.gmane.org and delivering to SMTP host localhost reading message jdm+moylan.us-LPA1KyJyIuz1P9xLtpHBDw@public.gmane.org:1 of 4 (1360 octets)fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP) ubuntu 8.10, network tools, shows ports 22, 80, 631, and 33829 as open. do i need to open port 25, and if so, what tool do i use to do it? i fiddled with ufw without success. any help appreciated. dan j. daniel moylan 84 harvard ave brookline, ma 02446-6202 617-232-2360 (tel) 810-454-1823 (fax) jdm-LPA1KyJyIuz1P9xLtpHBDw@public.gmane.org www.moylan.us [death to html bloat!]