ah, well. i thought i was using Mime-Lite-3.01_04 but was inadvertently linking to the previous directory. changing didn't help, however, but i did take tom metro's advice and stuck in a couple of lines defining Encoding and Type for the main body of the message, which will now hopefully sneak by jerry's mailer. don't know why i couldn't have seen that earlier. sorry to have been so dense. yeah, i know there are other mailers out there better than mine, but . . . let's hope this fixes the main objections. tnx, dan j. daniel moylan 84 harvard ave #2 brookline, ma 02446-6202 617-232-2360 (tel) 810-454-1823 (fax) jdm@moylan.info www.moylan.info