in dumping plain text files from .doc files using open office, i find that certain punctuation marks show up as hard to find sequences when i attempt to edit the file using vi (actually vim). e.g. the apostrophe seems to show as the octal sequence 342 200 231 (decimal 226 128 153). presumably i should be able to find this by looking for ^V226 but that doesn't work. working backwards, i tried inserting the sequence and found that ^V226 inserted octal 303 242, ^V128 inserted octal 302 200, and ^V153 inserted 302 231. this is not intuitively obvious. i plumbed the o'reilly book "learning the vi editor" but found no explanation. does anyone have any suggestions (other than switching to emacs)? dan j. daniel moylan 84 harvard ave #2 brookline, ma 02446-6202 617-232-2360 (tel) 810-454-1823 (fax) jdm@moylan.info www.moylan.info