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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><Snip></span></font> I do
think that you've by now many people think I'm homosexual--but I'm just a
regular <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">guy.</st1:place></st1:country-region></Snip><br>
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<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Not to be a dick, but is this guy now
suggesting homosexuals are somehow irregular? Should I go find a gay biker
crowd to beat him down, AND THEN, turn him over to the RIAA for a much needed ‘ritual
cleansing’ ??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>*<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>wink</span></b>*<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ryan K<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> discuss-admin@blu.org [mailto:discuss-admin@blu.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Greg Rundlett<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 12, 2004 12:52
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> GNHLUG; discuss@blu.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: p2p, anonymity and
security</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<br>
Derek Martin wrote:<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>My intention is explicitly stated and legal <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I beg to differ on that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> explicit - adj. Fully and clearly expressed; leaving nothing implied.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>You're right, I was not explicit. My statement
was actually 'simple'. That simple statement carries a lot of implied
meanings for most people, but I'm not like most people. So that's why I
said what I said without wanting to see it from the 'popular' point of
view. To clarify, I have very little interest in what is available on TV,
Radio, or through <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hollywood</st1:place></st1:City>.
I'm much more interested in history, arts, science, folk music, world music and
culture. Most of this is very hard to find, but I think there are volumes
of it that I could collect and share using p2p technologies without running
afoul of any laws. I'm interested in sites like ibiblio.org and seeing
their numbers grow on the Internet. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>You can discuss illegal things all you like, so long as you don't<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>announce intention to commit a crime, which is generally illegal. For<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>example, if you plot to commit a crime with your friends, you need not<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>even actually attempt the act to be guilty of a crime. This is called<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>conspiracy. If you are dumb enough to announce your intentions to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>kill the president, the Secret Service will make your life unpleasant.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>If you tell airport security that you intend to bomb a plane, you will<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>almost certainly be arrested immediately. You probably won't go to<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>jail, but you probably will miss your flight. Though, if you happen<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to be carrying anything that might be used to make a bomb... Well, I<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>wouldn't want to be you. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Well, I guess Carnivore picked up this thread by now.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>certainly possible to exchange materials which do not have copyrights<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to which you are not the owner via these file sharing networks;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>however I don't think anyone here is naive enough to believe that is<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(exclusively) what you intend...<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>You confused me a bit with this wording. I think you meant to say that <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>[SNIP]<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I said precisely what I meant to say. The sentences I wrote are<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>grammatically correct and grammatically convey exactly what I meant<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>them to convey.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>But you attribute to me motives which I do not have.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Public speeches have copyrights, regardless of the fact that they are<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>delivered publicly. There may be some issue of how enforcable the<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>copyright is in that case; I'm not sure. Are you? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I sounds like you've bought into the notion
promulgated by the popular media that because copyrights are automatically
granted, that doing anything without obtaining and paying for permission is a
crime. Realize that most people making a public speech have a message
that they are intentionally delivering to a mass audience for mass consumption
and re-telling. If someone makes a speech on homosexual equality, which
is recorded by a friend in the audience in MP3 format. Do you think the
speaker is more concerned with 'enforcing his/her rights against pirates' or
'enforcing his/her rights to equality'? I don't think the homosexual will
sue the friend. I do think that you've by now many people think I'm
homosexual--but I'm just a regular guy.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>FREePHILE<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>We are 'Open' for Business<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Free and Open Source Software<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="http://www.freephile.com">http://www.freephile.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(978) 270-2425<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Stay the curse.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></div>
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