<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
<title></title>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
<br>
<br>
Derek Martin wrote:<br>
<blockquote cite="mid20040311160441.GA20173@sophic.org" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">My intention is explicitly stated and legal
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
I beg to differ on that.
explicit - adj. Fully and clearly expressed; leaving nothing implied.
</pre>
</blockquote>
You're right, I was not explicit. My statement was actually 'simple'.
That simple statement carries a lot of implied meanings for most
people, but I'm not like most people. So that's why I said what I said
without wanting to see it from the 'popular' point of view. To
clarify, I have very little interest in what is available on TV, Radio,
or through Hollywood. I'm much more interested in history, arts,
science, folk music, world music and culture. Most of this is very
hard to find, but I think there are volumes of it that I could collect
and share using p2p technologies without running afoul of any laws.
I'm interested in sites like ibiblio.org and seeing their numbers grow
on the Internet.
<blockquote cite="mid20040311160441.GA20173@sophic.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap=""></pre>
<pre wrap="">
You can discuss illegal things all you like, so long as you don't
announce intention to commit a crime, which is generally illegal. For
example, if you plot to commit a crime with your friends, you need not
even actually attempt the act to be guilty of a crime. This is called
conspiracy. If you are dumb enough to announce your intentions to
kill the president, the Secret Service will make your life unpleasant.
If you tell airport security that you intend to bomb a plane, you will
almost certainly be arrested immediately. You probably won't go to
jail, but you probably will miss your flight. Though, if you happen
to be carrying anything that might be used to make a bomb... Well, I
wouldn't want to be you.
</pre>
</blockquote>
Well, I guess Carnivore picked up this thread by now.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid20040311160441.GA20173@sophic.org" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">certainly possible to exchange materials which do not have copyrights
to which you are not the owner via these file sharing networks;
however I don't think anyone here is naive enough to believe that is
(exclusively) what you intend...
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">You confused me a bit with this wording. I think you meant to say that
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->[SNIP]
I said precisely what I meant to say. The sentences I wrote are
grammatically correct and grammatically convey exactly what I meant
them to convey.
</pre>
</blockquote>
But you attribute to me motives which I do not have.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid20040311160441.GA20173@sophic.org" type="cite"><!----><br>
<pre wrap="">Public speeches have copyrights, regardless of the fact that they are
delivered publicly. There may be some issue of how enforcable the
copyright is in that case; I'm not sure. Are you?
</pre>
</blockquote>
I sounds like you've bought into the notion promulgated by the popular
media that because copyrights are automatically granted, that doing
anything without obtaining and paying for permission is a crime.
Realize that most people making a public speech have a message that
they are intentionally delivering to a mass audience for mass
consumption and re-telling. If someone makes a speech on homosexual
equality, which is recorded by a friend in the audience in MP3 format.
Do you think the speaker is more concerned with 'enforcing his/her
rights against pirates' or 'enforcing his/her rights to equality'? I
don't think the homosexual will sue the friend. I do think that you've
by now many people think I'm homosexual--but I'm just a regular guy.<br>
<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
FREePHILE
We are 'Open' for Business
Free and Open Source Software
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freephile.com">http://www.freephile.com</a>
(978) 270-2425
Stay the curse.
</pre>
</body>
</html>