brian medley writes: > Did you try making the 'bin' directory (with > correct permissions) before untaring? yes, and that works fine, as long as you have only one simple directory (like my example). i really have a directory tree, with many branches, which is not practical to create ahead of time. > tar has the option --mode=PERMISSIONS which may help you > in your problem. However, I don't know if it will do > exactly what you want because it changes the permissions > for *every* file in the archive. >>>>>>>>> VOILA!! <<<<<<<<<<<< tar czvf bin.tgz --mode=u+w -C /mnt/cdrom/skl bin tar xzvf bin.tgz yup, mode doesn't show up on the man pages, but works just dandy. in essence, it solves my problem perfectly. thanks all, dan moylan