well, thanks to blu help i successfully downloaded/installed netscape 6.1 and it seems to work . . . after a fashion. - whereas v4.61 took 15 s to load, v6.1 takes over a minute - it seems to have even more features that i don't need than did v4.61 for most stuff it seems to work ok, but the reason i decided to "upgrade" was to read my EZPass statement at: https://viewbill.chase.com/EZPass/ going to that site using v4.61 i got a message saying i wasn't secure enough. fine, but when using v6.1 netscape freezes up and won't even "close" but needs "destroy". do i need to install something else, or . . . ? tnx, dan