dereck martin writes: > You'd need to stop and start inetd... if you didn't that should fix > the problem. If you did, then I have no idea what the problem is. well, some progress, but further embarassing admissions. inetd was not even installed on machine 1! how that ever happened, i don't know; it was supposed to be. i should take better notes during installation. i know it's all listed in /tmp/install.log but . . . that said (and corrected), telnetting from machine 2 to 1 now seems almost to work, but closes before presenting the Login: Trying 192.168.0.3... Connected to deneb.moylan.com. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. similarly, rcping from machine 2 to 1 also fails, giving the following: rcmd: deneb.moylan.com: Connection reset by peer both telnet and rcp work fine from machine 1 to 2. /etc/hosts.equiv looks the same on both. hosts.deny, hosts.allow contain only comments (although putting in host entries didn't help). gotta be somthing basic. still muddling along. dan