[Discuss] printer issue

Jerry Feldman gaf.linux at gmail.com
Fri Jun 24 20:16:06 EDT 2022


The issue you raise is privacy. If you use the isp provided gateway or your
own replacement, devices will get up addresses from that gateway's nat. If
you get a router, and set it up to manage your lan, you are insulating your
devices from the network. Of course, if you want a device accessible from
the outside, that is a different story.

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On Fri, Jun 24, 2022, 7:51 PM <epp at null.net> wrote:

> Comcast will allow a customer to use a personally-owned modem, if this
> is what you're referring to. They have a list online of the approved
> modems, that I presume were tested to ensure they work.
>
> I have an Asus router that is configured as an access point, which I
> have used in the past. As an AP, the devices on the internal network
> would pull IP's from the Comcast gateway, but are physically/WiFi
> connected to the AP. A negative to this, is that (unlike the Comcast
> gateway) the router/AP will not allow the same SSID to be used for both
> 2.4 and 5.0 GHz WiFI.
>
>
> On 6/24/22 19:04, John Abreau wrote:
> > I generally recommend minimizing the amount of trust you give to your
> > ISP. I've switched between different ISPs over the years, and if the
> > ISP insists on providing its own wifi router, I would connect only one
> > device to that router: my own personal wifi router.
> >
> > My internal home network is always under my personal administrative
> > control, and I only use the ISP to transport bits back and forth
> > between my private network and the public Internet.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 4:50 PM <epp at null.net> wrote:
> >
> >     My printer is an OfficeJet Pro 8210 and it will prompt to download
> and
> >     install a software upgrade, if available, when it's connected to the
> >     network. It has upgraded the software once, since I've had it. I
> >     do not
> >     know how often it checks HP for updates.
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 6/24/22 15:54, Ben Kallus wrote:
> >     > It's worth noting the security risks that come with network
> >     printers.
> >     > Their firmwares is not often updated, and has been shown to be
> >     > insecure time and time again.^1 You may be better off connecting
> >     it to
> >     > a computer you trust, then exposing it as a network printer through
> >     > that computer. The photosmart D110 is the printer I had as a
> >     kid, and
> >     > I don't think it's gotten an update in a very long time.
> >     >
> >     > [1]:
> >
> https://techventures.columbia.edu/news-and-events/latest-news/symbiote-technology-created-ang-cui-and-salvatore-stolfo-named-one
> >     >
> >     >> On Jun 24, 2022, at 1:58 PM, epp at null.net wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >> On 6/24/22 11:21, dan moylan wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >>> running fc36 on lenevo thinkpad T460 (alphacent), printer hp
> >     >>>
> >     >>> photosmart d110.
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> because of other problems, xfinity just came and provided a
> >     >>>
> >     >>> new modem/router/wifi.  i logged into xfinity's device and
> >     >>>
> >     >>> set up reserved ip addresses for my stuff in accordance with
> >     >>>
> >     >>> /etc/hosts:
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain localhost
> >     >>>
> >     >>> 127.0.0.1       alphacent.localdomain  alphacent
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> 10.0.0.1         xfinity.localdomain xfinity
> >     >>>
> >     >>> 10.0.0.63        aldeberon.localdomain aldeberon
> >     >>>
> >     >>> 10.0.0.62        d110.localdomain d110
> >     >>>
> >     >>> 10.0.0.61        unknown
> >     >>>
> >     >>> 10.0.0.60        alphacent.localdomain alphacent
> >     >>>
> >     >>> 50.87.218.82     bluedan
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> all is well, except for the printer.  i went through the
> >     >>>
> >     >>> wireless setup on the printer which declared success, but
> >     >>>
> >     >>> the xfinitiy modem shows it as an offline device --
> >     >>>
> >     >>> un-pingable.
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>>    moylan nmp[1111] nmap -Pn 10.0.0.62 > 3log
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>>    Starting Nmap 7.92 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2022-06-24 11:14
> EDT
> >     >>>
> >     >>>    Nmap scan report for d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62)
> >     >>>
> >     >>>    Host is up (0.10s latency).
> >     >>>
> >     >>>    All 1000 scanned ports on d110.localdomain (10.0.0.62) are
> >     >>>
> >     >>>    in ignored states.  Not shown: 990 filtered tcp ports
> >     >>>
> >     >>>    (no-response), 10 filtered tcp ports (host-unreach)
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>>    Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7.04 seconds
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> what's going on?
> >     >>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> ole dan
> >     >>
> >     >> I swapped out my gateway with Comcast last month because of the
> >     speed
> >     >> increases back in March. My HP printer was connected to the
> >     previous and
> >     >> is connected to the new, via Ethernet. The printer apparently
> >     retained
> >     >> its IP address in its settings, so once it was connected to the
> new
> >     >> gateway, it just worked.
> >     >>
> >     >> If the above is the IP address of the printer and HPLIP is already
> >     >> installed, as superuser/root, running:
> >     >>
> >     >> hp-setup -a 10.0.0.62
> >     >>
> >     >> in a terminal window, should otherwise configure it.
> >
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